tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post4918937577977066932..comments2023-09-25T06:06:14.658-07:00Comments on The Rambling Bear: Yet Another PvP Gear RantSuraBearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16032638801256115996noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-13293572307049137612008-08-27T07:59:00.000-07:002008-08-27T07:59:00.000-07:00The real issue here is accessibility. Blizzard tri...The real issue here is accessibility. Blizzard tried to make pve accessible with their LFG functionality, dropping raids from 40 to 25 man and introducing heroic dungeons. All that was helpful...but...then they tried to make PVP accessible.<BR/><BR/>Cross realm battlegrounds meant your pool of players to play with was multiplied by about 20. This encouraged tons more PVPers because you could play any time. The cost of entry was easy, no setting up raid times, no long waits while getting people to start. So more and more people started pvp'ing. Blizzard continued to shift their focus to PVP as more and more of their player base shifted that direction.<BR/><BR/> So the real issue, IMO, with pve isn't the gear disparity but the focus the players put on it and hence the effort Blizzard puts in to it.<BR/> If Blizzard were able to figure out a way to do cross realm PVE, or the equivalent in terms of PVE accessibility at the high end, I think you would see a large shift in player focus, and shortly thereafter a shift in design's focus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-84924605963358041202008-08-18T08:11:00.000-07:002008-08-18T08:11:00.000-07:00I feel your PAIN. What ever just happened to raidi...I feel your PAIN. What ever just happened to raiding for raid gear? And instancing for raid gear? It doesn't exist anymore, and you aren't the only one frustrated and depressed about the whole thing. Its only going to be getting worse, as the game seems to be 'dumbed' down a bit.Nyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317793924733965452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-37191903205776082672008-07-29T08:07:00.000-07:002008-07-29T08:07:00.000-07:00Thats the problem with Paladin (and many other'...Thats the problem with Paladin (and many other's) gear paths through the game, there isn't one.<BR/><BR/>For Paladins pre-badge-of-justice gear our Progression was:<BR/><BR/>D3->T4->T5->T6+BT/MH drops<BR/><BR/>Now its<BR/>D3->T4->T5->T6+BT/MH->Sunwell<BR/>.....------- BOJ--------><BR/><BR/>Its still messed up, but its a lot better because there is actually gear in many of the slots for us now rather than being simply badly optimised. BoJ + tier tokens looks like the way to go for gear in the expansion (imo, not Blizz) rather than cluttering up the loot tables with small loot sections that get DE'd otherwise.<BR/><BR/>Mind you, I am / was essentially a 100% BoJ tank since I only recently hit BT.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415648946567949701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-24309939759837194032008-07-28T06:16:00.000-07:002008-07-28T06:16:00.000-07:00I really like the badge rewards, pvp gear and in g...I really like the badge rewards, pvp gear and in general all the ways gear can be obtained in wow. I respect your gripe, and it makes sense.<BR/><BR/>Try this on though: Where do you get Tank gear for Paladins except by running instances over and over (and over)? PVP helps most classes get a foot in on PvE gear. It is no substitute for good PvE drops, but then PvE drops are managed in a totally stupid way. <BR/><BR/>Why is the drop method stupid? Because I can do the same friggin instance 12 times and got get a single item I need. I was gearing my Tank through Shadow Labs, trying for a trinket and shoulder. It took 14 runs to get both, and I got them both on the last run.<BR/><BR/>All the other runs were a total waste of time. If that was pvp I would at least be acquiring points and badges, and it would not have taken a 5th of the time to get a simple upgrade.Typhoonandrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12392786022524518082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-45636568522024904022008-07-17T20:54:00.000-07:002008-07-17T20:54:00.000-07:00Sura please enjoy the honeymoon. You deserve it an...Sura please enjoy the honeymoon. You deserve it and so does your wife. I just want you to know that I am eagerly waiting for a new post. TY sir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-56316613397103743992008-07-09T05:45:00.000-07:002008-07-09T05:45:00.000-07:00Well, the worst part is that I'm kind of forced to...Well, the worst part is that I'm kind of forced to PvP to get good stuff. I've been in Kara to at least Curator probably 20-25 times and cleared about 10-15 times. Still haven't even seen my Garona's Signet or T4 helm, let alone have a chance to roll on it. My point being is that it's nice to have a decent alternative to know you can get with a certain amount of diligence, rather than throwing your mouse across the room when you see those two items drop the first two times your priest enters Kara.<BR/><BR/><BR/>RNGs can go to hell, lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-72594520828278274422008-07-08T12:44:00.000-07:002008-07-08T12:44:00.000-07:00Its all about finding the right group when you're ...Its all about finding the right group when you're new to instances. I actually ran ramparts last week on my shaman with a DPS warrior who had never tried tanking before, but wanted to give it a shot. Fortunately, we not only had a backup tank should things get rough, but we had a very understanding group who was willing to work with the guy and forgive his shortcomings.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the guy would have had an easier time if I wasn't there. . . aggro control on a shaman is something I have yet to develop (and probably never will, since Kornaq'll be a chain heal spamming spacegoat once I get him to 70 and maybe grind out SSO rep).SuraBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16032638801256115996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-25362019973384285062008-07-08T06:56:00.000-07:002008-07-08T06:56:00.000-07:00I dont know why I put in my DPS in that comment,it...I dont know why I put in my DPS in that comment,it didn't make sense. Its early and I thought I was going somewhere with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-61165418867153386452008-07-08T06:40:00.000-07:002008-07-08T06:40:00.000-07:00Personally I have to do pvp. My work schedule does...Personally I have to do pvp. My work schedule doesn't work at all with instances. My pvp gear from what i've noticed when I do sun dailies. I get around 900-1000 dps and when I'm in the BG I do about 300 dps. If I didn't get pvp epics I would have been done with this game a long time ago. I agree with K, I would be absolutely terrible in instances. To this date I have been in 1 and thats ZF to help lower leveled guildies. I get too stressed out in instances, I don't want to let the group down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-60952733459325709152008-07-07T02:46:00.000-07:002008-07-07T02:46:00.000-07:00Thankfully there aren't any PvP upgrades for Vymes...Thankfully there aren't any PvP upgrades for Vymes or Svenge to be had, unless I wanted to build more parts for a Ret set for Vymes.<BR/><BR/>Inisule, however, has a laundry list.<BR/><BR/>I liked Kara runs as they were so laid back and everyone had a good time in a piss-easy instance. Sadly I can't make them lately thanks to work.Svengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436530320991012013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-87468293497663151242008-07-06T08:57:00.000-07:002008-07-06T08:57:00.000-07:00Secondly... as for PvP gear and getting it... if y...Secondly... as for PvP gear and getting it... if you can respec resto, it's a lot easier to do. Just keep yourself and other people alive. Buy the honor PvP gear for some survivability. Heal your tuckus off. You get lots of HK's, and sometimes are the difference between 1 mark and 3 marks. :) Then you can buy the gear you're really interested in for your main spec.<BR/><BR/>However, I disagree a little bit in terms of PvP gear being as good if not better than PvE gear. I'm sure it can be, in the hands of a skilled PvE'er. However...<BR/><BR/>I would rather take a blue-geared rogue who runs tons of instances and knows how to PvE into a heroic over a PvP-epic-geared rogue who has no hit rating. For a few reasons. The epic-geared rogue (not saying it's only rogues, but for my example it is!) seems to think that gear > skill. They seem pre-occupied with damage meters rather than threat meters. They don't listen to tactics as much because they're kind of used to doing their own thing. And when things go wrong, it's never their fault. <BR/><BR/>Not every PvPer. <BR/>Let me repeat.<BR/>Not every PvPer. <BR/><BR/>But the stereotype exists for a reason.<BR/><BR/>What I will say... is that PvP gear makes nice gear gap fillers. And it's something I can do when I don't have time for an instance but I do have time for your average WSG or AB or AV or EOTS. And as a feral tank, resilience actually is kinda nice to have. I can drop some defense (which isn't exactly the easiest thing to find on leather gear anyway) to get better gear for those spots with some resilience. <BR/><BR/>Groups of Words has an interesting line of articles going on right now about the difference between PvP and PvE play. <BR/><BR/>If your guild is really busy with PvP all the time, you may have to ... *whisper*PuG. I know it's horrible and terrible and usually ends with a lot of crying, but ... then again, if you start your own group you can always kick the idiots and sometimes will find a new person who is kinda kickass.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12708082019182660608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-87231708495804461052008-07-06T08:48:00.000-07:002008-07-06T08:48:00.000-07:00First off, Anonymous, have you ever heard of the s...First off, Anonymous, have you ever heard of the saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all".<BR/><BR/>This is a blog. This is an opinion web journal. You are not required to read it. If you find it boring, instead of telling Rambling Bear to stop posting or to put it private, maybe you should stop reading? Free will, my friend. Rambling Bear can write. You can stop reading if you find it boring. Have a nice day!Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12708082019182660608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-23884598031793371112008-07-04T08:47:00.000-07:002008-07-04T08:47:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634943682265586439.post-63735088376465616112008-07-03T23:09:00.000-07:002008-07-03T23:09:00.000-07:00Your a stronger man then I. I see the pvp epics th...Your a stronger man then I. I see the pvp epics that are better then my raiding ones, and yeah, I'll grind my ass off to get them. Pvp on an Ele Shammy? Painful. But I'll do it. I did it for my vindicator's crap and I'll do it for the S4 bracers/neck. I don't like pvp. If Al'ar's bracers didn't completely blow compared to the pvp ones... It sucks. Suck suck sucks.<BR/><BR/>Working when everyone is online doesn't help either. I -want- to do Kara with my hunter. But I'm either working or passed out when everyone is on. Thats another story for another day.Kiomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07689932772032116207noreply@blogger.com